Thursday, 02 April 2009

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  • PilgrimOfTruth

    Interesting. I met a young Canadian student once who had just published a piece on group behavior that inspires heroic, righteous behavior. This is of course in the opposite of Zimbardo's research with the "Lucifer Effect." I'll see if I can track down the article again and link it for you.


    -Pilgrim of Truth

  • Eccentrique

    One of these days in your studies you'll come across, if you haven't already, the famous Kitty Genovese case, which illustrates the principle of "diffusion of responsibility".  I've seen the phenomenon operate over and over again in various contexts.  "Someone else will call the police."  "Someone else will help that person."

    Whatever you choose to call the phenomenon, it involves the fact that most people don't like to stick their necks out too far, and justify their inaction by saying to themselves, "Oh, someone else will take care of it.  It's not my responsibility.  I didn't own slaves.  Etc., etc."

    I think real social connections are of vital importance.  I've quit several local political organizations because the people involved didn't seem to understand the basic principle of simple friendship.  I'm not interested in merely going to meetings, conducting business, writing bylaws and position papers.  I want to share a meal with people, get to know who they are apart from our shared political interest, meet them face to face on the level of the human heart.  It's especially difficult for Americans to do that, it seems, because they're so damned self-sufficient.

    Social connection may or may not be necessary for collective action, but it's not sufficient.  There has to be shared desperation also.  Most of the people I'm involved with politically in this town are much more affluent than I am.  So for them politics is largely theoretical, an intellectual exercise, a form almost of entertainment.  When I try to tell them about my personal travails, my first-hand experiences with the system they profess to despise, their eyes glaze over and they walk away.  They don't want to upset their comfortable little existences, and they certainly don't want to take any personal responsibility for ME.  "The government should nationalize the means of production," they pontificate, while my needs are much more immediate and elemental.

  • PilgrimOfTruth

    I'm still trying to track that article down. I know the guys name was Dominique. But maybe the research was more about Milgram than Zimbardo. Never fear my detective skills are still at work.

    p.s. You probably should have some fear. ;)

  • PilgrimOfTruth

    Start fearing. I am still looking but to no avail. ;)

  • gpspacey

    @PilgrimOfTruth - Oh, it's okay.  Thanks for trying!

  • Eccentrique

    A little lax in our Xanga posting lately, aren't we?    I hope you're doing all right, Grace.

  • JosephParsons

    How I long for a good protest at AIG. I think I could bring myself to waving a sign.

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